Topic: Split from "The way Tec-Interactive works" - TEC going after P servers

That private notion makes perfect sense.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Private

Metin2 SG blocks connections from most of the countries of the world. This makes it very private. Compare that to Metin2 DE, where you may connect from any country.

You may only connect to SG by going through a proxy, which makes your connection source a country that is not blocked.

The majority of the world being excluded is a perfect definition of "Private". When using that meaning of private, yes, Metin2 SG is a private server. It's simply facts & the English language, none of which you can change.

Of course in the other meaning of "private server", i.e. one that is not licensed, it is wrong. It all depends on definition. Dweia was right.

I don't call metin2 SG a private server because it can obviously confuse people due to multiple meanings. But I understand how it can be called that, and that when private is taken in the common form, it holds true.

A private server under the gaming industry is basically a third-party approximation of what the real server software and architecture is supposed to look like. A private server known as an emulated server is bounded by Law under EULA violations.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act has curled its many tendrils around almost every internet legal concern, over the issue of private server, since its inception. There was a case called Bowers v. Baystate Technologies back in 2003 that clarified that an EULA could negate the fair use allowance of reverse engineering, thus removing reverse engineering as a way to figure out the way software works. You can, however, reverse engineer for interoperability concerns, but not to make a competing product. You're also prohibited from releasing any code or information you create from reverse engineering.

A License Agreement was signed for Metin2 with the trademark owner being "the Licensor" and TEC Interactive "the Licensee" over the grant of use of a "Product" known as Metin2 which, the Agreement is in relevant to Regulation 21(b) of the Licensing Act in Singapore and relevant to an Act administered by Law in South Korea.

Roph, I can pardon you on your lack of knowledge in applicable Law. Let me remind you again that there isn't a different meaning regarding a private or emulated server in the Connected Game industry as clearly indicated with explanation by Law and examined in every legal aspect.

However, I must condemn your action clearly shown with prejudice to defend a wrongful case without the careful consideration of fair statement. Be mindful eyes are watching this forum you have created and looking at your prejudiced words, instigating an approximation of being a prejudiced fan site. I hope this isn't your idea in creating a global effective game user forum because you failed with this statement answering on Dweia being the site administrator.

With this, I shall only await a reply from a representative in GameForge regarding the part of defamation. Of course, they may choose to ignore but the greater impact of ignoring shows a lot.


Regards,


Christopher

Christopher failed to mention that he pays hosting companies money to have them force the user to remove their website content.. even if it isn't actually infringing copyrights..

Nothing on AlpineMT2 site is infringement of copyright but guess what? He cries to them and obviously payed them off or something because nothing on my site is copyrighted by anyone o0

I think the fact that the site has an illegal server of metin2 (p server) is the copyright infringement.

You dont need to pay anybody to take down a pserver because its illegal from head to toes.

I think the fact that the site has an illegal server of metin2 (p server) is the copyright infringement.

the website is not infringing copyrights...

You dont need to pay anybody to take down a pserver because its illegal from head to toes.

the website is not illegal. he did not contact host of server he contacted the webhost...

so both wrong =D

the website is not illegal. he did not contact host of server he contacted the webhost...

so both wrong =D

Hi Rumor,


TEC has appointed a Council, registered as a member of the ICTC, familiar with the CyberSpace Crime, to add on behalf of the Company to pursue legal cause against the owner of Alpinemt2.


In relevant, report has been filed with the International Criminal Court or Tribunal for Cyberspace (ICTC) and the International Computer Bureau (ICB) to assist TEC to obtain information of the server and website of Alpinemt2.


The act of operating Alpinemt2 is against the Law herein known as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). In futherance, we may pursue under the ICTC, in relevant to the DMCA and expand to the US Penal Code Title 18, Chapter 47, Section 1030, on Fraud and related illegal activity in connection with computers and internet piracy, to press charges against the defendant in the US Federal Court.


Under the Penal Code, our legal representation will file a Police report in the Country of the registered operator to seek the Criminal Procedure Code for Police Action to investigate and apply from the Attorney General Chambers to prosecute the defendant under the Criminal Act as mentioned above.


On June 21, 2011, a Paypal's Infringement Report Form (http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/UserAgreement/ua/InfringementReport-outside) has been forwarded to the Brand Risk Management Team from Paypal to take appropriate action against Alpinemt2 for unauthorised and illegal use of Paypal trademark and illegal monetary collection under donate@alpinemt2.com, which is in contravene to Paypal's regulation under the Federal Law.

Account holder of donate@alpinemt2.com will also be reported to the Tax Department and the Monetary Association of Rightful Collection in his Country which consequences is more severe compared to above-mentioned.


Under DMCA, if found guilty, the accused person shall be punished with a fine of minimum 20,000 and not exceeding 200,000 (USD).

Under the US Penal Code Title 18, Chapter 47, Section 1030, on Fraud and related illegal activity in connection with computers and internet piracy, the accused person shall be punished with a fine of minimum 10,000 and not exceeding 100,000 (USD) and a mandatory imprisonment of minimum three months and not exceeding 7 years.


Under the Federal Law of illegal monetary collection, it is a mandatory imprisonment.


As for the Paypal infringment, TEC shall only report the matter to Paypal, Brand Risk Management, an eBay Company, and allow Paypal Legal Department to seek appropriate action.


In view of the above, please note that there are several infringment by the owner of Alpinemt2.com. Any ISP or Web Hosting Company who do not cooperate with the ICTC on Copyright Act, shall be punished with Abetment of an offence and be dealt with in similar Law.


As mentioned in a mail from JustHost, Alpinemt2 has 48 hours to shut down the website and the game and thereafter seek remedy for a cure to prevent further legal and criminal action by the Authority.


Best Regards,



Christopher Chia

CEO

TEC Interactive Pte Ltd


Quoted above from Legal Council appointed under TEC Interactive Pte Ltd, a Company registered in Singapore with the Registrar of Company and an official licensee for Metin2.

What happened to never posting here again? And demanding your staff doesn't either?

So mad and jealous you just had to login and post huh ? And even though you have my email which you never answer to you decide to post personal business matters on a public forum.. Real mature of you

the website is not illegal. he did not contact host of server he contacted the webhost...

so both wrong =D

Hi Rumor,


TEC has appointed a Council, registered as a member of the ICTC, familiar with the CyberSpace Crime, to add on behalf of the Company to pursue legal cause against the owner of Alpinemt2.


In relevant, report has been filed with the International Criminal Court or Tribunal for Cyberspace (ICTC) and the International Computer Bureau (ICB) to assist TEC to obtain information of the server and website of Alpinemt2.


The act of operating Alpinemt2 is against the Law herein known as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). In futherance, we may pursue under the ICTC, in relevant to the DMCA and expand to the US Penal Code Title 18, Chapter 47, Section 1030, on Fraud and related illegal activity in connection with computers and internet piracy, to press charges against the defendant in the US Federal Court.

Fail, alpinemt2.com is not an infringement of copyright. Your scare tactics aren't going to work. It's pretty obvious you wouldn't take some small pserver to court, especially with the owner being in Macedonia.. which makes it an international dispute. That would cost you more in fees than you could make from a small server like alpinemt2 . Anyways as I said you have no case since the website is not infringing any copyrights. Poor you.

Also there is no fraud taking place, and you have no way to know if it were or not.

Under the Penal Code, our legal representation will file a Police report in the Country of the registered operator to seek the Criminal Procedure Code for Police Action to investigate and apply from the Attorney General Chambers to prosecute the defendant under the Criminal Act as mentioned above.

Running a website is a criminal act? Guess you better report Roph too for having liquiron. I have nothing more on my website than he does lol..

On June 21, 2011, a Paypal's Infringement Report Form (http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/UserAgreement/ua/InfringementReport-outside) has been forwarded to the Brand Risk Management Team from Paypal to take appropriate action against Alpinemt2 for unauthorised and illegal use of Paypal trademark and illegal monetary collection under donate@alpinemt2.com, which is in contravene to Paypal's regulation under the Federal Law.

Like I said, there is no infringement so paypal won't and can't do anything . And I'm sure they don't care about some jealous guy from Singapore who's mad because he payed alot for his server and has less players than privates.

Account holder of donate@alpinemt2.com will also be reported to the Tax Department and the Monetary Association of Rightful Collection in his Country which consequences is more severe compared to above-mentioned.

Wow, you sure are going all out aren't you? You must be really angry. I can't imaging what you will do when you realize you've failed =o.

Under DMCA, if found guilty, the accused person shall be punished with a fine of minimum 20,000 and not exceeding 200,000 (USD).

Under the US Penal Code Title 18, Chapter 47, Section 1030, on Fraud and related illegal activity in connection with computers and internet piracy, the accused person shall be punished with a fine of minimum 10,000 and not exceeding 100,000 (USD) and a mandatory imprisonment of minimum three months and not exceeding 7 years.


Under the Federal Law of illegal monetary collection, it is a mandatory imprisonment.

Lol@ fine and imprisonment for buying web hosting and using it...
By the way, a company accepting donations is a non-profit organization and protected by this:

Copyright Disclaimer, Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for 'fair use' for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Fair_use_under_United_States_law

Not to mention the owner lives in Europe, so I don't know what his laws are or if US laws apply to him or not.. But there you go.

As for the Paypal infringment, TEC shall only report the matter to Paypal, Brand Risk Management, an eBay Company, and allow Paypal Legal Department to seek appropriate action.


In view of the above, please note that there are several infringment by the owner of Alpinemt2.com. Any ISP or Web Hosting Company who do not cooperate with the ICTC on Copyright Act, shall be punished with Abetment of an offence and be dealt with in similar Law.

Yes, I've noticed how scared you've got JustHost, but I don't but your scare tactics Chris. If Justhost refuses to see the obvious, that we are in-fact not infringing any copyrights, we will just get an anonymous host. Then jealous children like you won't find out who the host is anymore =D.


As mentioned in a mail from JustHost, Alpinemt2 has 48 hours to shut down the website and the game and thereafter seek remedy for a cure to prevent further legal and criminal action by the Authority.


Best Regards,



Christopher Chia

CEO

TEC Interactive Pte Ltd

Quoted above from Legal Council appointed under TEC Interactive Pte Ltd, a Company registered in Singapore with the Registrar of Company and an official licensee for Metin2.

I also find it pretty amusing that you think you can barge in on other countries and try to force your lies on them...

What ever happened to the publisher of the region handling this business? SG is not in USA (webhost) nor is it in europe (server host).

And what happened to that time you were saying you would sue a MODERATOR at GameForge?

So this entire thing is full of fails and you will see soon enough.

loool imagine rumor in jail XDDDD

Christopher 1 - Rumor 0

And well, the good thing about him in jail is that he's to ugly to be raped.

christopher 1 rumor 0 because? because you don't like me? Fail.

Christopher is claiming something is infringing copyright which was entirely made by alpinemt2 :/

so correction: rumor 1 christopher 0


by the way where on this site do they offer FreeBSD hosting? http://www.justhost.com/


oh yeah and even if Chris DID have a case which he does not, I would not be the one in jail even in the hypothetical situation he actually succeeded. Nothing is in my name...

Did I ever said I didn't like you? I only called you corrupted, a lyer and a hacker, nothing more:P
You amuse me, you make me think of a youtube video were people are doing stupid stuff over and over again, the only difference is, the youtube video has an end and your stupidity keeps on going ^^

Did I ever said I didn't like you? I only called you corrupted, a lyer and a hacker, nothing more:P
You amuse me, you make me think of a youtube video were people are doing stupid stuff over and over again, the only difference is, the youtube video has an end and your stupidity keeps on going ^^

Hmm well you talk all the crap you can here, then I ignore it and you go do it on elitepvpers too.

So you implied it..

Anyway you bore me..

everytime when Rumor is pwned he reply with "Kid,u bore me,im leaving this thread,taking my win,jealous?" and etc etc
So yea its Chris 1 - 0 Rumor
 
and bullshit,u use SG files on ur sv so thats copyrights,dumbo

Did I ever said I didn't like you? I only called you corrupted, a lyer and a hacker, nothing more:P
You amuse me, you make me think of a youtube video were people are doing stupid stuff over and over again, the only difference is, the youtube video has an end and your stupidity keeps on going ^^

Hmm well you talk all the crap you can here, then I ignore it and you go do it on elitepvpers too.

So you implied it..

Anyway you bore me..

Same old rumor, Ignores when he knows he can't denie the truth.
And why every time you can't win a flame, it bores you and you ignore it?
Last time I saw that kind of behaviour was when I was 6 and went to kindergarten


EDIT: lol, wonderkid beated me to it:P

everytime when Rumor is pwned he reply with "Kid,u bore me,im leaving this thread,taking my win,jealous?" and etc etc
So yea its Chris 1 - 0 Rumor
 
and bullshit,u use SG files on ur sv so thats copyrights,dumbo

well there is no way for him to know which files are on server =) and his complaint is for the website not the server .

u said hes jealous on u?
If hes jealous on u,he must be without home,parents,having 200kg's,gay and etc
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA joke of 21th century.
Tnx for that Rumor.