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[RE]Stats for May
« on: May 30, 2011, 08:38:04 AM »
1. That graph doesn't represent the real population. Roph tracks the bandwidth and uses graphing program to make an estimation on the user count which can be FAR off from the actual user count.

2. I don't see him doing this kind of shit for ANY server except SG , why? Insecurity. He knows if SG gains popularity (which it is cuz I see him watching it constantly on forums) alot of people from US will quit and his GM made stuff will have no use.

If you want to start war you Pathetic troll, I can pull out of threads from players' mouth on Z8Forums that show the condition of your server.

Your really sad and jealous.
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 08:42:19 AM »
Also for anyone reading this, I have to be honest with you on one thing since the server of SG is far away the Ping can be up to 300 for some countries which can sometimes be annoying. There is nothing wrong with this beatiful server that is free of hackers/bots/scammers and it is newbie friendly. Your welcome to join anytime.

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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 09:11:51 AM »
1. That is wrong, they're direct from SG's own servers.

2. It's not possible to do it for other servers because they don't make their user count publicly available. Again, you are wrong.

"my" server is a misnomer, I don't own or be a fanboy for any server. Metin2 US is very bad, absolutely. For as long as I can remember I have never recommended anyone start on it. You're simply wrong :)
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 09:14:16 AM »
ahahahahahahha lol at the stats  :P
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 09:20:55 AM »
1. That is wrong, they're direct from SG's own servers.

2. It's not possible to do it for other servers because they don't make their user count publicly available.

"my" server is a misnomer, I don't own or be a fanboy for any server. Metin2 US is very bad, absolutely. For as long as I can remember I have never recommended anyone start on it. You're simply wrong :)

From what I know SG doesnt make their user count publicly available and guess what? I just asked Chris he showed me the amount of visitors for Metin in a week and it was over 60k. And do you know how I knew that you were bull-shitting?

1. There were couple of maintanence this month at least more than 3-4 that doesnt show on Graph.
2. EVEN on our forums the number of visitor passed 1.2k just few days ago.


I know your jealous of the effort that the TEC puts into their server and you don't want them reaching anywhere and you know God damn well that by showing this "bull-shit" you think you will keep away some more players joining SG that's how it is with people...same thing happened with Jesus. He tried to gain followers but rich people made bull-shit about him to keep people from joining so they could keep their authority.

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« Last Edit: May 30, 2011, 09:36:03 AM by S4Life »
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 09:27:07 AM »
maybe he showed u the page views on the website
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 09:28:32 AM »
ahahahahahahha lol at the stats  :P

And this proves my point that I mentioned.
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 09:33:32 AM »
Btw stront I need to ask for something , do you know the stats for EPIC accessories from P servers ?

Like htb > Epic htb

Htn> Epic

Hte > Epic

Do you know those ones??? Please let me know also same with 61 shields cuz i know they go epic too ;)
Thanks and the do you know ANY p server that has same bonus system as US or SG? ...All i wanna do is some tests on changing lol the last ones u gave me were crap X.x
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 09:34:21 AM »
"Visitors" is not CCU, and by definition not a real time statistic. CCU means a single point in time measurement, i.e. there are 10 people currently (Current Coffee Users :P) in the coffee shop up the street from me, but this week there may be 3,000 Visitors. He is telling you about the visitors to SG's site, where they use google analytics. Liquiron uses google analytics too, I could tell you a "visitors" number over a long time frame and make it sound impressive also.

The maintenance is already explained, I'll copy and paste since it looks like you missed / couldn't understand it the first time.

When fitting a whole month into a graph there aren't enough pixels to show every piece of data, there are over 5 thousand (ccu is polled roughly every 10 minutes), so some are discarded (they didn't happen during collection) or they are hidden (they are averaged, so 0 followed by 50 when squashed into 1 pixel becomes 25). In the case there is maintenance or no response (server down), a 0 is recorded.

Try to imagine taking high resolution line drawing, say 5,000 pixels wide, and then shrink it down to 700 pixels wide. You will see close gaps in between lines (analogous to maintenance) disappear or become blurred into the other lines.

Forum visitors is again irrelevant (read the first paragraph again), vBulletin counts spiders as guests. On another forum of mine right now there are 27 people logged in, and 174 guests, most of which are spiders.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be "jealous" of; I don't run a Metin2 server (perhaps if I ran a private server? But I don't). If G4BOX or Gameforge servers let you see their CCU publicly, you would see graphs made for those servers too. But they don't have that feature enabled.
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 09:41:23 AM »
"Visitors" is not CCU, and by definition not a real time statistic. CCU means a single point in time measurement, i.e. there are 10 people currently (Current Coffee Users :P) in the coffee shop up the street from me, but this week there may be 3,000 Visitors. He is telling you about the visitors to SG's site, where they use google analytics. Liquiron uses google analytics too, I could tell you a "visitors" number over a long time frame and make it sound impressive also.

The maintenance is already explained, I'll copy and paste since it looks like you missed / couldn't understand it the first time.

When fitting a whole month into a graph there aren't enough pixels to show every piece of data, there are over 5 thousand (ccu is polled roughly every 10 minutes), so some are discarded (they didn't happen during collection) or they are hidden (they are averaged, so 0 followed by 50 when squashed into 1 pixel becomes 25). In the case there is maintenance or no response (server down), a 0 is recorded.

Try to imagine taking high resolution line drawing, say 5,000 pixels wide, and then shrink it down to 700 pixels wide. You will see close gaps in between lines (analogous to maintenance) disappear or become blurred into the other lines.

Forum visitors is again irrelevant (read the first paragraph again), vBulletin counts spiders as guests. On another forum of mine right now there are 27 people logged in, and 174 guests, most of which are spiders.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be "jealous" of; I don't run a Metin2 server (perhaps if I ran a private server? But I don't). If G4BOX or Gameforge servers let you see their CCU publicly, you would see graphs made for those servers too. But they don't have that feature enabled.

I dont need a lesson to see jealousy in your words. You cannot deny the fact you KEEP watching SG's population growth and do whatever you can do to hammer it constantly. Even if you did a CCU graph on GF + US that won't show anything cuz those servers are infected with bots/hackers. I rather read WHAT'S ON Z8 forums from player made threads quote "I havent sold a 4+ rebel in a week , I dont see anyone but bots in freekingdom anymore". As I said if you want to start a troll war between official servers YOUR ON but that will only hurt Reputation of all servers.


And pls don't tell me our server wont be affected blah blah blah if someone was constantly telling you this city is full of drug dealers etc.. etc.. would you go to that City to live?
« Last Edit: May 30, 2011, 09:44:42 AM by S4Life »
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2011, 09:43:40 AM »
Btw stront I need to ask for something , do you know the stats for EPIC accessories from P servers ?

Like htb > Epic htb

Htn> Epic

Hte > Epic

Do you know those ones??? Please let me know also same with 61 shields cuz i know they go epic too ;)
Thanks and the do you know ANY p server that has same bonus system as US or SG? ...All i wanna do is some tests on changing lol the last ones u gave me were crap X.x
there r no epic necklaces, earrings, bracelets

only helm and shoes
epic shoes give the same bonus like the shoes before them but the bonus is doubled
epic phoenix boots+9 give 20 block

only undergroundmt2 has that with same stats
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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2011, 09:45:58 AM »
Btw stront I need to ask for something , do you know the stats for EPIC accessories from P servers ?

Like htb > Epic htb

Htn> Epic

Hte > Epic

Do you know those ones??? Please let me know also same with 61 shields cuz i know they go epic too ;)
Thanks and the do you know ANY p server that has same bonus system as US or SG? ...All i wanna do is some tests on changing lol the last ones u gave me were crap X.x
there r no epic necklaces, earrings, bracelets

only helm and shoes
epic shoes give the same bonus like the shoes before them but the bonus is doubled
epic phoenix boots+9 give 20 block

only undergroundmt2 has that with same stats

I saw them on Metin united or something...but I dont wanna go there and ask cuz people are retarded and dont even chat/reply -.-
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2011, 09:53:09 AM »
roph why u closed tread? I dont get....

and if i did same explanation to my boss i prolly be fired in a mins for not able to do my job properly....And explaining that there is 5k data and then it reach's 0 its still shows over 50.....

anyways why u posting this?, its interesting for me but if u show not real values cmon ur such a kid to do that? Or u get payed for doing this?

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Re: [RE]Stats for May
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2011, 09:54:29 AM »
There is almost no growth. As for "keeping" doing it, it's automatic dear, I don't have to do anything :P . I could quit the internet and it would still be collected and graphs be generated, for as long as they enable it :)

I think it's funny that when I make you angry (who's insecure, again?) you seem to think a way to "get back" at me is to point out bad things about US, as if that "owns" me or something. You can't start your "troll war" with me about US because I'm not a Metin2 US fanboy, and not interested in defending it. I think US is bad too, lol :D
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2011, 09:57:26 AM »
roph why u closed tread? I dont get....

and if i did same explanation to my boss i prolly be fired in a mins for not able to do my job properly....And explaining that there is 5k data and then it reach's 0 its still shows over 50.

anyways why u posting this?, its interesting for me but if u show not real values cmon ur such a kid to do that? Or u get payed for doing this?

Ignore Roph, if he truly didn't care US server he would have dropped his GM made stuff on video and help GM's to clean up the corruption (starting from him of course).

Lastly, although there were times where the server lacked players for events and shit like that (another reason is language cuz there is alot of spanish etc..) there is enough competition in the server atm for all players. For anyone reading and hesitating to join cuz of this bull shit graph, don't hesitate ;)

P.s, also Roph I am "insecure" because I dont want people that wanna play a good official server to miss out due to a bull shit graph.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2011, 10:03:20 AM by S4Life »
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