Topic: New Metin2SG server!

(link to original thread posted by sphynxfinal -> HERE)

Hello!

I wish to share my thoughts on this subject - an idea of opening a second Metin2 server on SG.

In this post I will give my best to explain and say everything I can remember right now, in short my reasons, thoughts, some facts, some speculations, and other.

Lets start off with some facts about Metin2.SG.

First of all, I'd like to say once again Metin2.SG is the best official Metin2 server in the world. No doubts. Lots of facts prove it. It is rather simple to take a quick look over most of Metin2 official servers and conclude that SG wins by far.
The GM team is awesome, helpful, professional, available... The GM team is everything a proper GM team should be. It would be an offense to compare SGs GM team to any other Metin2 GM team in the world.
The Item Mall is the cheapest in the world. Compared to US, it is considerably cheaper, compared to UK its at least two-three times cheaper, no need to compare further. We are all aware that most people will say "me no mall, mall is cheater", however an amazingly big number of players uses mall. It being cheaper on SG is a huge relief.
I would also like to mention ingame properties of SG. A wonderful EXP rate, I would be free to say the best in the world. Very fair item drop rate, also leading in the world (go go go, try farming on US/UK/DE/xx then roll back on SG). Offering 5th bonus on items, available level 75 weapons, numerous annoying bugs fixed, and so on, and so on. A huge plus compared to any other server out there is having item mall items tradeable! An incredible help to non-mallers who finally have much better chances at catching up with mallers.
Some really great additions like double maps - you can enter 2 Nula Valleys on 1 CH! Wonderfully done. Relieves a whole lot of pressure from players and enables smooth gameplay. (Simply can not forget to mention dual temple, dual mountain and dual red wood maps - it is really awesome.)

Next, lets take a look at reality.

Metin2.SG chronically lacks one thing it needs the most - player count. Fact: Metin2.SG is like a desert. Undeniable.
Check US, UK, any, ANY other server, including some incredibly sucky P-servers, they ALL have massive player counts.
Anything else? Well, put yourself in the position of any unsatisfied UK/US/etc player. They will check out SG, get to see the unusually empty maps and noob-unfriendly community (face it, the little community SG boasts with is not really noob-friendly, its a group of lvl~80 players with +9 items who PvP around). If some serious player wants to join, he will probably notice the high levels and +9 items all around and probably wont even start playing properly cause its impossible to get to the top anymore (or it would take a very, very long time and a LOT of real money).

I will follow with some history references.

Lets take a trip back to a time almost 2 years ago (or so, I really forgot exact dates).
Metin2 SEA announcement is all around! Everyone is excited!
A brand new, corruption-free, cheap-mall, stable, official, getting all the new official updates, a helpful dedicated proper GM team, scam-free, hack-free, bot-free... Put shortly, Metin2SG was supposed to provide heaven on earth in form of an MMORPG!
What happened? Metin2SG finally made it! It is online! And now a rain of slaps hits all of us right in our face (including tha GM team, I will point out our dearest GA mr. Christopher Chia too)! IP block was the main, HUGE slap... Enormous player count losses on that one. All the work wiped after beta testing. Another slap, I would say (it's my opinion and I'm free to say so). A wave of issues crashed down on Metin2SGs staff and players... Resulting in a very, very low amount of them staying and still playing until today.
A lot of people will remember the wonderful plans of moving to SG. Whole guilds, teams of players were ready to go and play here. If conditions were good (and they were anything but good), the player base would probably be really huge. The server would finally see the full use of double maps (such as valley or temple) and get a bigger amount of channels (lets be honest, currently only 1 CH would be far more than enough on SG, I do not recall EVER seeing any CH on SG even BUSY in the past year and more).
After the great deal of issues (where I forgot to mention how long it took to get online, it was delayed over and over again, people were waiting for months - and of course we all know how impatient people are) SG is left completely ignored by the huge most of players.

I log in US, I see hundreds, thousands of players.
I log in UK, I see hundreds, thousands of players.
I log in DE, I see hundreds, thousands of players.
I even go as far as to check the stupid little servers like RO or PL... Guess what, its nicely overwhelming with players.

OK, now lets get to another fact. Lets observe the behavior of DE server. How many servers are there? 50+. How many players does each server have? Tons. Not to make it too long, most European servers are the same.

There are 3 official servers which are not opening new servers constantly. US, UK and SG.
Now, of course I am not saying SG or any of the other two should have a new server opened every day, that's what I would refer to as brain numbness.

Before I get to the main point of this post, I would also like to point at all the unhappy players on every other official server (even a few on SG, but for completely different reasons). There ARE tons of unhappy people there. SG is not quite popular because some small issues are still around (a lot of players lag a little, the IP block is still active even though it is bypassed easily nowadays) and players simply don't have something strong to believe in when starting on SG anymore (so they do not...).

And now the final point I was getting to for the past 45 minutes (I was typing this for about that long, I really wanted to make it look the best possible, readable, nice, true, useful.).



Open a new server on Metin2.SG.

I can name a hundred people myself who would join it instantly. There are hundreds and thousands more who think the same.

We are fed up with the bulls*** they stuff us with on US, UK and similar, and all those stupid P-servers (it is really sad that people can not even open a proper private server for the desperate ones...).

Revive all the old promises and make them all come true at last.

The current server is DEAD, no one can deny that. It is like buying a 15 years old dog with rabies. You never know when it will just crash down near your feet.

Now I will add some speculations of mine.
You have the license to open a server already, right? So that should not be stopping you.
You have a host which is probably mostly going to waste with the low usage of the current server. So you should not even have any hardware issues. Maybe you would have to rent another server or two but that would not really be too hard. You have a wonderfully set up server created, all you have to do are a few clicks more or less. Of course though, it would need some setting up, it would need a separate forum and some things like that. But non of it is too hard for what it offers.

Another huge thing you all met while creating and playing this server is the power of advertising. Advertising is what gets even more people play. Advertising with promises you will actually keep with no mistakes is worth even more.

Players themselves would help the advertising a LOT. Hah, I would personally go notify the people on US/UK/DE/xx forums about the new SG server. I know many more people who would do the same. (being honest, most people would be the happiest if all other official servers just burned down mysteriously)

The idea has huge potential. But an idea is of no value. Deeds and actual work is of real value.

Make a poll. Ask players what would they like. Give them what they want. You provide the service to earn money - why not provide what players want, doesn't that earn more?

I will conclude this with a few quick notes.
Please do not spam this topic with absolutely useless non-related things.
Please do not tell me about how selfish I am for posting this just because I myself would like to play on a new server (it is partially true even though I'm really bored with Metin2 after years and years of playing, but how many more are there who think just the same as me? Tons!).
Please do post all the positive and negative opinions you have.
Please actually read and understand everything I wrote before you comment on my words.
And please do not flame or spam, I, and I believe, WE, do not want this topic to get closed with no result at all.

I apologize for any grammar/spelling mistakes. English is not my native language but I give my best. Thank you for taking your time to read.

That WILL NOT happen no matter on how much boards u copy-paste this text.

Your biggest complaint seems to be the low player base on SG, and the fact that you can't be "the best".   You already proposed a solution to your first problem:

Players themselves would help the advertising a LOT. Hah, I would personally go notify the people on US/UK/DE/xx forums about the new SG server. I know many more people who would do the same. (being honest, most people would be the happiest if all other official servers just burned down mysteriously)

Why wait for a new server?  Go for it.  Start advertising it.  Tell all your friends about it.  If you tell 10 friends, and they tell 10 friends, and so on.. well the possibilities are endless. 

Oh but wait, you all want to start on a new server, where you can "be the best".  You do realize that to be the best on a new server is going to take... well, here, we'll use your words again:

(or it would take a very, very long time and a LOT of real money)

 
When the New World server opened on the US.  Every one thought they were going to be the best. I can't remember the exact time line, it seems to me like it was within a week or two at the most there were already level 80 players running around. And it wasn't long before shiny armors were popping up everywhere.  If you're playing a game to be the best,  you're never going to be happy.  There will always be someone who is better than you. It's great to have goals, but you should enjoy the game you play. 

It is my understanding that new servers are opened when the other server is full.  For that simple fact your suggestion makes no sense.

I totally agree with Lady Mac. Cant add anything else since i already replyed on SG forum

Found the flaming pointless. Edited by Life.

I highly doubt that Life is mentaly stable.In all his posts you can see foul language and US refferences. I think US is like a nightmare for the him lols.
On-Topic : A new server is not a good idea because the players will not move to the new server amd there will be no "new" players for the server because Metin2 is an old game and, IMO, all Metin2 servers try to keep their current player count because it's hard to "recruit" new players with so many amazing games around.
Don't try to "force" your admin to open a server just because your friends are "wannabe the best" you will fail anyway.I think he's smart enough to not open a new server in such conditions.
If your friends wannabe the best, make yourself a Private server (that's not hard if you know how to use Mr.Google) and you'll be the best.
It's not something personal, I'm just posting my 2 cents as an "out-sider", I don't really care what's going on with TEC/GF servers because I play on US.:p
HF,
Boschi.

sg still dont have many players...so till u will log at any hour and u will see many shoops maby then u can ask yourself if will be a new serv...

Your biggest complaint seems to be the low player base on SG, and the fact that you can't be "the best".   You already proposed a solution to your first problem:

Players themselves would help the advertising a LOT. Hah, I would personally go notify the people on US/UK/DE/xx forums about the new SG server. I know many more people who would do the same. (being honest, most people would be the happiest if all other official servers just burned down mysteriously)

Why wait for a new server?  Go for it.  Start advertising it.  Tell all your friends about it.  If you tell 10 friends, and they tell 10 friends, and so on.. well the possibilities are endless. 

Oh but wait, you all want to start on a new server, where you can "be the best".  You do realize that to be the best on a new server is going to take... well, here, we'll use your words again:

(or it would take a very, very long time and a LOT of real money)

 
When the New World server opened on the US.  Every one thought they were going to be the best. I can't remember the exact time line, it seems to me like it was within a week or two at the most there were already level 80 players running around. And it wasn't long before shiny armors were popping up everywhere.  If you're playing a game to be the best,  you're never going to be happy.  There will always be someone who is better than you. It's great to have goals, but you should enjoy the game you play. 

It is my understanding that new servers are opened when the other server is full.  For that simple fact your suggestion makes no sense.

epic contradiction ladywack

if there will always be someone better than you then who is better than the best player?

There is none.  =)  Only people with huge egos who think they are.   

Seriously though, sure you may have a "best" player for a while. (MFMetal on US comes to mind for me) But as you and I both know, it isn't long before someone else comes along who is better. And then someone else.  I thought that was pretty easy to understand 

There is none.  =)  Only people with huge egos who think they are.   

Seriously though, sure you may have a "best" player for a while. (MFMetal on US comes to mind for me) But as you and I both know, it isn't long before someone else comes along who is better. And then someone else.  I thought that was pretty easy to understand 

Agreeing with Lady Mac in both posts.

There is no best player on any server. Let me explain this at an estimated SG Example:

Crono86 is surely the best PvP Player in Elgoria, I bet no Warrior or Sura is able to kill him at this moment. But when I duelled Crono 1-2 months ago, he won 5-4 and 5-3 and 5-4, which means, he is better than me but it doesnt mean I wouldnt be able to kill him at all. (atm he's way better than me due to his upgradingluck lol). I was a killer machine against Sura and other Mages, became pretty good on warriors too but Assassins are my weakpoint so far, such as Ndikas. Ndikas is also very good at PvP but there are also some people that are able to kill him ... etc. etc. etc.

So once again: there isnt a "allround best pvp player against anybody", it's just some players which have a way higher win-ratio than lose-ratio in Duels.

And: Definately no new server. You can levelup pretty fast if you invest enough time and/or money into your character. Such as ZeusDrake which hasnt started sooo long on SG (comparing to me who joined SG from 3rd day it's forum was born) and is already 4 Levels above me (I became lazy on leveling)...

So.. instead of waiting years for a new server to come, start NOW. Since you'll be way farer on our Server Server one as if you'd wait for the world to collapse. (Server Two will never come since, if we fill up with players, our first server will just get more Channels if I'm uptodate)

wow.

you speak amazing English for a German.. I saw your posts on elitepvpers lol gz

lol.....LOL....LOL..about Ndikas part...just LOL.....